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paf-digest Sunday, February 13 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 011
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[PAF] PAF 4.0 and Family Search interface
Re: [PAF] PAF 4.0 and Family Search interface
[PAF] dumb move
Re: [PAF] PAF 4.0 and Family Search interface
Re: [PAF] dumb move
Re: [PAF] dumb move
Re: [PAF] dumb move
Re: [PAF] dumb move
[PAF] File check in Paf 4.0
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:03:05 -0800
From: Rob & Heather Williams <will7370@tao.sou.edu>
Subject: [PAF] PAF 4.0 and Family Search interface
I need some help or suggestions with the PAF 4.0 internet interface. As some of you may already know, you can highlight any individual in PAF 4.0, then go up to the tool bar and click "Tools". When that window drops down, click on "Family Search Internet
Genealogy Service" and it will immediately launch your web browser, dial in, then go to the Family Search web site and search for the person you had highlighted in PAF 4.0.
This has always worked well for me, but when I tried to show a friend how it works on their computer, it failed. I think it is because they use AOL (America On-Line) for their internet. A window pops up and says it cannot connect to the service. Does anyone
know how to make the PAF 4.0 Family Search interface work with AOL?
Regards,
Rob Williams
Ashland, Oregon
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:57:58 EST
From: Mehmail@aol.com
Subject: Re: [PAF] PAF 4.0 and Family Search interface
In a message dated 02/11/2000 10:11:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
will7370@tao.sou.edu writes:
<< I need some help or suggestions with the PAF 4.0 internet interface. As
some of you may already know, you can highlight any individual in PAF 4.0,
then go up to the tool bar and click "Tools". When that window drops down,
click on "Family Search Internet
Genealogy Service" and it will immediately launch your web browser, dial in,
then go to the Family Search web site and search for the person you had
highlighted in PAF 4.0.
This has always worked well for me, but when I tried to show a friend how it
works on their computer, it failed. I think it is because they use AOL
(America On-Line) for their internet. A window pops up and says it cannot
connect to the service. >>
I am a very frustrated AOL subscriber that has monumental problems with their
service. !@$#@&$#*&%! Yet, I do not have the problem you describe above.
PAF 4.0 Family Search pops up satisfactorily for me. But, who knows what
will happen tomorrow?
@#%#@&^%*
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1972 18:09:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Cheryl Singhal <csinghal@CapAccess.org>
Subject: [PAF] dumb move
I found a major mistake in a line, so I created a GED of 74 people (RINs
20081 thru 20154), then did a block-del on those folks. Edited the GED,
and pulled them back in.
I innocently *assumed* that it would put these 74 people into those same
RINs.
So, now I've got 74 empty records.
I know I can GED everyone out and back into an empty database. However,
I've still got reports coming in that USE the RINs and taking everyone
out and back will muck that up nicely. Is there another way to get rid
of the blanks?
Gad, won't we all be GLAD when I finally send this blasted thing to the
printer?! (g)
Cheryl
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:57:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Timothy Laswell <tlaswell@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [PAF] PAF 4.0 and Family Search interface
Internet connections can be set to automatically dial up or only dial up
when you click on the dial icon. It looks like in the first case you have
it set to automatically dial. It sound like the AOL system is not set
that way. I would recommend making AOL dial up then minimize the AOL
screen(s) before firing up PAF and requesting a Search.
Tim in Columbia MD
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 Mehmail@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 02/11/2000 10:11:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> will7370@tao.sou.edu writes:
>
> click on "Family Search Internet
> Genealogy Service" and it will immediately launch your web browser, dial in,
>
> This has always worked well for me, but when I tried to show a friend how it
> works on their computer, it failed. I think it is because they use AOL
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:14:00 EST
From: Mlharline@aol.com
Subject: Re: [PAF] dumb move
In a message dated 2/11/00 3:07:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
csinghal@CapAccess.org writes:
> I know I can GED everyone out and back into an empty database. However,
> I've still got reports coming in that USE the RINs and taking everyone
> out and back will muck that up nicely. Is there another way to get rid
> of the blanks?
>
I guess you are using PAF4 because PAF 3 would have reused the RINs while PAF
4 gives you a choice not to reuse. There is a way to put people into those
RINs, but it isn't easy and I'm not sure just how it would work in this case.
Using the procedure that the RIN of the last record deleted is the first RIN
to be used, add an individual and give it just the first name of the person
whose RIN that used to be, and then merge the two -- the new record into the
original RIN. This isn't as straight forward as it was in PAF 2 because you
don't the see the RIN you are adding until it is added. (It shows as 0 until
added.) You would have to do all of them before doing the merge because the
RIN deleted during the merge would be the next one to be used.
I usually come up with the hardest possible way to solve a problem. You
will probably be better off to just map the new RINs to the old, and forget
replacing them.
Mary Lou
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:50:52 +0000
From: "Alice Harris" <akh@molalla.net>
Subject: Re: [PAF] dumb move
Cheryl,
The older Paf versions put new people in the most recently deleted Rins.
I think it was Paf 3 ( maybe 2.31) that allowed you to choose if you
wanted to use those deleted Rins when you imported.
The last Rin deleted was the first Rin to be used when adding new
people. So if you since you don't know the order they came out for
sure. You'd probably have to use the "Let me choose which records"
selection when you imported and unless you are smater than I am, you'd
probably have to do it 74 times to put each person when you wanted them.
But it is a possiblity.
Good Luck,
Alice Harris
> I found a major mistake in a line, so I created a GED of 74 people (RINs
> 20081 thru 20154), then did a block-del on those folks. Edited the GED,
> and pulled them back in.
>
> I innocently *assumed* that it would put these 74 people into those same
> RINs.
>
> So, now I've got 74 empty records.
>
> I know I can GED everyone out and back into an empty database. However,
> I've still got reports coming in that USE the RINs and taking everyone
> out and back will muck that up nicely. Is there another way to get rid
> of the blanks?
>
> Gad, won't we all be GLAD when I finally send this blasted thing to the
> printer?! (g)
>
> Cheryl
>
>
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:13:32 -0700
From: "Jim Almquist" <jim-almquist@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: [PAF] dumb move
I *really* hate to mention this - BUT, how about using a Back-Up copy to restore
as things were before the "dumb move"?
I'm afraid I know the answer, but thought I'd just mention it ;-)
Jim
- -----Original Message-----
From: Alice Harris <akh@molalla.net>
To: paf@innernet.org <paf@innernet.org>
Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [PAF] dumb move
Cheryl,
The older Paf versions put new people in the most recently deleted Rins.
I think it was Paf 3 ( maybe 2.31) that allowed you to choose if you
wanted to use those deleted Rins when you imported.
The last Rin deleted was the first Rin to be used when adding new
people. So if you since you don't know the order they came out for
sure. You'd probably have to use the "Let me choose which records"
selection when you imported and unless you are smater than I am, you'd
probably have to do it 74 times to put each person when you wanted them.
But it is a possiblity.
Good Luck,
Alice Harris
> I found a major mistake in a line, so I created a GED of 74 people (RINs
> 20081 thru 20154), then did a block-del on those folks. Edited the GED,
> and pulled them back in.
>
> I innocently *assumed* that it would put these 74 people into those same
> RINs.
>
> So, now I've got 74 empty records.
>
> I know I can GED everyone out and back into an empty database. However,
> I've still got reports coming in that USE the RINs and taking everyone
> out and back will muck that up nicely. Is there another way to get rid
> of the blanks?
>
> Gad, won't we all be GLAD when I finally send this blasted thing to the
> printer?! (g)
>
> Cheryl
>
>
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1972 10:29:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Cheryl Singhal <csinghal@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: [PAF] dumb move
Yeah, you SHOULD hate to mention it. (g) And finally, Mary Lou gave me a
hint that pointed me in a profitable direction: I restored from BU,
doctored the GED to leave in only enough to ID each person AND the fix,
imported 'em then did match/merge. I've still got 74 empty used records,
but now they're at the end and my RINs still match the copy-editors' copy.
Thanks everyone!
Cheryl
On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Jim Almquist wrote:
> I *really* hate to mention this - BUT, how about using a Back-Up copy to restore
> as things were before the "dumb move"?
> I'm afraid I know the answer, but thought I'd just mention it ;-)
> Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alice Harris <akh@molalla.net>
> To: paf@innernet.org <paf@innernet.org>
> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 8:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [PAF] dumb move
>
>
> Cheryl,
>
> The older Paf versions put new people in the most recently deleted Rins.
> I think it was Paf 3 ( maybe 2.31) that allowed you to choose if you
> wanted to use those deleted Rins when you imported.
>
> The last Rin deleted was the first Rin to be used when adding new
> people. So if you since you don't know the order they came out for
> sure. You'd probably have to use the "Let me choose which records"
> selection when you imported and unless you are smater than I am, you'd
> probably have to do it 74 times to put each person when you wanted them.
> But it is a possiblity.
>
> Good Luck,
> Alice Harris
>
> > I found a major mistake in a line, so I created a GED of 74 people (RINs
> > 20081 thru 20154), then did a block-del on those folks. Edited the GED,
> > and pulled them back in.
> >
> > I innocently *assumed* that it would put these 74 people into those same
> > RINs.
> >
> > So, now I've got 74 empty records.
> >
> > I know I can GED everyone out and back into an empty database. However,
> > I've still got reports coming in that USE the RINs and taking everyone
> > out and back will muck that up nicely. Is there another way to get rid
> > of the blanks?
> >
> > Gad, won't we all be GLAD when I finally send this blasted thing to the
> > printer?! (g)
> >
> > Cheryl
> >
> >
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:06:24 +0000
From: "Alice Harris" <akh@molalla.net>
Subject: [PAF] File check in Paf 4.0
I remember reading that there was a problem with the file check program
in 4.0 when it first came out. Does anyone know if it was ever fixed?
I ran a check last night and it showed that I had 9 errors when it was
"checking Other names" It gave me messages such as
"Name 2347122 greater pointer (2348247) is not greater" Which I can't
begin to understand. It suggested that I restore the file with a clean
back up (guess I should ck more often because I don't know when this
occurred). It also says PAF could try to fix some problems but a loss of
data is possible. Real encouraging, right?
Anyway, I decided to run a check using 3.01M this AM and it says the
records are OK.
Does Paf 4.0 check for things Paf 3 doesn't or is there still a problem
with 4.0? And if it is accurate does anyone know how to find a
name/number list so I can tell who the problems are with?
Thanks, Alice Harris
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