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paf-digest V1998 #58
paf-digest Wednesday, October 21 1998 Volume 1998 : Number 058
In this issue:
[PAF] FHD E-mail Support
[PAF] Family History Training Satellite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
Re: [PAF] Copying stored e-mail files
Re: [PAF] Copying stored e-mail files
Re: [PAF] Family History Training Satellite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
Re: [PAF] Family History Training Satellite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
[PAF] FHD Support By E-mail
[PAF] Re: Family History Training Satellite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
[PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:37:53
From: john_carruthers@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: [PAF] FHD E-mail Support
FYI The Family History Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day Saints will send out Information Letters to Leaders of PAF
Users' Groups by e-mail. Any Leader may apply for this service by e-mail at
FHDFHS@ldschurch.org. The same adddress can now be used to get technical
support by e-mail. The folowing was recently received from the FHD
Quote: You may get technical support over e-mail as well if you prefer.
When requesting help, please include the version of Personal Ancestral
File(r), what version of Windows you have (if any) and any other relevant
information (i.e. if it is a printing problem, include the printer make and
model). Also include a fairly detailed description of the problem and how
it was encountered. Unquote
Yours aye, John
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:16:47 -0700
From: Peter Van Schaik <peter.van.schaik@T8000.com>
Subject: [PAF] Family History Training Satellite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
Copied from a letter send to all stakes ,wards and FHC's :
Family History Training Satelite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
The church will broadcast a family history training program on sunday,
November 8, 1998 at 6.00 P.M. mountain standard time (MST).
The following should attend: stake and ward priesthood leaders with
assignments in temple and family history work, including high council
advisers and high priest group leaders; Family History Center directors and
staff; family record extraction directors and staff; stake and ward family
history consultants; and missionaries with family history assignments.
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 17:47:17 -0500
From: tomboelling@juno.com (Thomas C Boelling)
Subject: Re: [PAF] Copying stored e-mail files
Eleanor,
What you would do is to go to the menu bar, touch the file drop down
menu, choose the save as selection, then give the file a name and it's
extension, then put it in the directory you want it to be in or to the
location disk, in this instance to the drive "a".
another way is to highlight the message, choose edit on the menu bar,
choose the copy selection, then minimize the e-mail program, open notepad
or your word processor, go to edit on that program, then paste, then to
file pop-down menu to save as selection to give it a name and
destination.
HTH
Tom
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:13:56 -0500
From: Eleanor & Charles Collins <Collins@todays-tech.com>
Subject: Re: [PAF] Copying stored e-mail files
Thank you Tom....you saved me from anguish....
Thomas C Boelling wrote:
> Eleanor,
>
> What you would do is to go to the menu bar, touch the file drop down
> menu, choose the save as selection, then give the file a name and it's
> extension, then put it in the directory you want it to be in or to the
> location disk, in this instance to the drive "a".
>
> another way is to highlight the message, choose edit on the menu bar,
> choose the copy selection, then minimize the e-mail program, open notepad
> or your word processor, go to edit on that program, then paste, then to
> file pop-down menu to save as selection to give it a name and
> destination.
>
> HTH
> Tom
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:16:19 -0500
From: Eleanor & Charles Collins <Collins@todays-tech.com>
Subject: Re: [PAF] Family History Training Satellite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
Can anyone else attend this broadcast?
Peter Van Schaik wrote:
> Copied from a letter send to all stakes ,wards and FHC's :
>
> Family History Training Satelite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
>
> The church will broadcast a family history training program on sunday,
> November 8, 1998 at 6.00 P.M. mountain standard time (MST).
>
> The following should attend: stake and ward priesthood leaders with
> assignments in temple and family history work, including high council
> advisers and high priest group leaders; Family History Center directors and
> staff; family record extraction directors and staff; stake and ward family
> history consultants; and missionaries with family history assignments.
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:16:44 -0700
From: Peter Van Schaik <peter.van.schaik@T8000.com>
Subject: Re: [PAF] Family History Training Satellite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
At 06:16 PM 10/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Can anyone else attend this broadcast?
I don't see a problem with members at large attending, aren't we all family
history missionaries?????
PS;As long as they don't wake up the high priest!!!!!!
Groetjes from...............Peter!!!!!!
Genealogy: First a commandment, then a curiosity, then an interest,
then an addiction"
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:37:50
From: john_carruthers@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: [PAF] FHD Support By E-mail
FYI The Family History Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day Saints will send out Information Letters to Leaders of PAF
Users' Groups by e-mail. Any Leader may apply for this service by e-mail at
FHDFHS@ldschurch.org. The same adddress can now be used to get technical
support by e-mail. The folowing was recently received from the FHD
Quote: You may get technical support over e-mail as well if you prefer.
When requesting help, please include the version of Personal Ancestral
File(r), what version of Windows you have (if any) and any other relevant
information (i.e. if it is a printing problem, include the printer make and
model). Also include a fairly detailed description of the problem and how
it was encountered. Unquote
Yours aye, John
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:46:40 -0700
From: Peter Van Schaik <peter.van.schaik@T8000.com>
Subject: [PAF] Re: Family History Training Satellite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
At 12:47 PM 10/19/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Peter: What was the date of this memo? We have not yet received it in our
>Family History Center! Would sure like more info. Marilyn in Vancouver,
>WAshington USA
30 September,1998
Galaxie 6, channel 1, digitized.
>Peter Van Schaik wrote:
>> Copied from a letter send to all stakes ,wards and FHC's :
>> Family History Training Satelite Broadcast, November 8, 1998
>> The church will broadcast a family history training program on sunday,
>> November 8, 1998 at 6.00 P.M. mountain standard time (MST).
>>
>> The following should attend: stake and ward priesthood leaders with
>> assignments in temple and family history work, including high council
>> advisers and high priest group leaders; Family History Center directors and
>> staff; family record extraction directors and staff; stake and ward family
>> history consultants; and missionaries with family history assignments.
>
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:52:01 EDT
From: MEHolladay@aol.com
Subject: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
This is directed in particular to Cheryl, Roy, Ltbcad02, and others that have
gone far above and beyond the call of duty to pound this "How to" into my
head. Thank you all.
The following are the steps I am now taking to create a report, such as an
ahnentafel, and save it to a file. A British friend once used the term
"that's a long way around the bucket to kick it" (I love British humor.) So I
ask: is this the long way around the bucket? It seems to me there should be
an easier way.
My starting point in this example is in PAF with the principal person I want
(LOCKEJ) properly in place on my Small Pedigree screen.
1. Press P.
2. Choose "Change Print Destination", press Enter.
3. Choose "Save to Disk File", press Enter.
4. Enter name of file (LOCKEJ, and C:\PAF\DATA, press (F1).
5. (Print Box reappears) Choose Pedigree Charts, press Enter.
6. (Pedigree Chart Box reappears) Choose Ahnentafel Chart, press Enter.
7. Enter number of generations and other data requested, press (F1).
8. Select Highlighted Individual on Small Pedigree Screen, press Enter.
The print screen reappears for reasons I do not understand, certainly
confusing to anyone new in this game, as it now seems necessary to exit PAF.
So…
9. Choose escape and exit PAF.
10. Go to Explorer.
11. Open PAF folder.
12. Open Data Folder. (Bingo! There it is…Lockej.)
13. Click on Lockej.
14. In the "Open With" box, scroll down and select Winword, click OK.
The Anhentafel for LockeJ appears on screen. It can now be saved in Word,
printed, or copied to be included or attached to email.
I'll bet this brings a flood of comment.
Maurice
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:19:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cheryl Singhal <csinghal@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
Well, yeah, there's an easier way -- use PAF 2.31, which will ditch the
clickies and give you a default file name and path and generally behave
like it has manners. (g) From which you can tell, I don't LIKE the way
PAF30m looks and acts like a windows app (steps 10-14 are win-specific,
by the way).
And the print box reappears between steps 8 & 9 to say "OK, I finished
that, you wanna print sumin else?" (bg)
Other than that, sorry, that's how they structured it.
Cheryl
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 MEHolladay@aol.com wrote:
> This is directed in particular to Cheryl, Roy, Ltbcad02, and others that have
> gone far above and beyond the call of duty to pound this "How to" into my
> head. Thank you all.
>
> The following are the steps I am now taking to create a report, such as an
> ahnentafel, and save it to a file. A British friend once used the term
> "that's a long way around the bucket to kick it" (I love British humor.) So I
> ask: is this the long way around the bucket? It seems to me there should be
> an easier way.
>
> My starting point in this example is in PAF with the principal person I want
> (LOCKEJ) properly in place on my Small Pedigree screen.
>
> 1. Press P.
> 2. Choose "Change Print Destination", press Enter.
> 3. Choose "Save to Disk File", press Enter.
> 4. Enter name of file (LOCKEJ, and C:\PAF\DATA, press (F1).
> 5. (Print Box reappears) Choose Pedigree Charts, press Enter.
> 6. (Pedigree Chart Box reappears) Choose Ahnentafel Chart, press Enter.
> 7. Enter number of generations and other data requested, press (F1).
> 8. Select Highlighted Individual on Small Pedigree Screen, press Enter.
>
> The print screen reappears for reasons I do not understand, certainly
> confusing to anyone new in this game, as it now seems necessary to exit PAF.
> So…
>
> 9. Choose escape and exit PAF.
> 10. Go to Explorer.
> 11. Open PAF folder.
> 12. Open Data Folder. (Bingo! There it is…Lockej.)
> 13. Click on Lockej.
> 14. In the "Open With" box, scroll down and select Winword, click OK.
>
> The Anhentafel for LockeJ appears on screen. It can now be saved in Word,
> printed, or copied to be included or attached to email.
>
> I'll bet this brings a flood of comment.
>
> Maurice
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:45:33 EDT
From: MEHolladay@aol.com
Subject: Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
In a message dated 10/19/98 4:22:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
csinghal@CapAccess.org writes:
<< Well, yeah, there's an easier way -- use PAF 2.31 >>
You are a little difficult to follow at times, however I believe you are
telling me that I should locate and obtain software that is out of date by at
least a year and superceded by 3.0. I should check with LDS to ask if they
have any 2.31's left on the shelf? Or have I completely misunderstood?
Maurice
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:11:00 EDT
From: Gfahs@aol.com
Subject: Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
In a message dated 98-10-19 19:49:23 EDT, you write:
<< You are a little difficult to follow at times, however I believe you are
telling me that I should locate and obtain software that is out of date by at
least a year and superceded by 3.0. I should check with LDS to ask if they
have any 2.31's left on the shelf? Or have I completely misunderstood? >>
I think she was kidding you. A couple of differences from your method is
that I don't exit PAF. I merely shrink it and go look at the output. Also, I
guess it is fine to save it to the PAF folder, but I generally send it to a
word processor, usually Word Perfect, where I can view and work with it, then
save it to a floppy. (I recently experienced a hard drive crash -- lost data
not saved to a floppy or backed up to a floppy)
Glorianne
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:05:16 EDT
From: MEHolladay@aol.com
Subject: Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
In a message dated 10/20/98 5:13:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Gfahs@aol.com
writes:
<< I think she was kidding you. A couple of differences from your method is
that I don't exit PAF. I merely shrink it and go look at the output. >>
Thank you for your thoughts on this subject. You have also hit on something
that has troubled me ever since I started working with PAF. How do you
shrink, or minimize the PAF screen since it is not a window that provides that
option in the upper right corner? This has really bugged me...so if there is a
way I'd be grateful to you for providing instructions.
Maurice
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:22:35 EDT
From: Gfahs@aol.com
Subject: Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
In a message dated 98-10-20 12:05:16 EDT, you write:
<< How do you shrink, or minimize the PAF screen since it is not a window that
provides that option in the upper right corner? This has really bugged me...so
if there is a way I'd be grateful to you for providing instructions. >>
Hold down the alternate "ALT" key and hit "enter". That will give you the
toolbar with the minimize in the right corner. This is something I stumbled
on accidentally; I don't know if it is in the instructions anywhere.
Glorianne
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:31:02 -0700
From: "John J. Totten" <jjtotte@california.sandia.gov>
Subject: Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
MEHolladay@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 10/20/98 5:13:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Gfahs@aol.com
> writes:
>
> << I think she was kidding you. A couple of differences from your method is
> that I don't exit PAF. I merely shrink it and go look at the output. >>
>
> Thank you for your thoughts on this subject. You have also hit on something
> that has troubled me ever since I started working with PAF. How do you
> shrink, or minimize the PAF screen since it is not a window that provides that
> option in the upper right corner? This has really bugged me...so if there is a
> way I'd be grateful to you for providing instructions.
>
> Maurice
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With the set up that I have pressing the "Alt" and "Tab" at the same
time makes an icon of the PAF program in the Task Bar. There is a way
to make the program reside in a normal Windows window and it appears to
be effected by whether it is installed from DOS or from Windows
installation. John Totten PAF user
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:38:34 EDT
From: MEHolladay@aol.com
Subject: Re: [PAF] (PAF) How to Create & Save PAF Charts & Reports.
In a message dated 10/20/98 11:51:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jjtotte@california.sandia.gov writes:
<< With the set up that I have pressing the "Alt" and "Tab" at the same
time makes an icon of the PAF program in the Task Bar. >>
Thanks all...now there are two ways..."Alt/Tab" as above or "Alt/Enter",
perhaps more if I should wish to experiment with other Alt combinations.
Anyhow, the problem is solved, and I am grateful.
Maurice
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