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paf-digest Monday, September 28 1998 Volume 1998 : Number 051
In this issue:
Re: [PAF] Ancestral File Update
Re: [PAF] Ancestral File Update
[PAF] PAF Cartoons
Re: [PAF] Ancestral File Update
[PAF] FHC Seminar URL
Re: [PAF] Ancestral File Update
Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
[PAF] RE: Cable TV...... No Monthly Bills!
[PAF] Test Message - Delete
[PAF] Great Page!
[PAF] Printing from PAF
[PAF] PAF Cartoons
Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
[PAF] PAF Companion 2 news release
[PAF] [Fwd: Warning Screens]
[PAF] submission from [BernadettSzodi@jenlo-link.com]]
Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:38:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cheryl Singhal <csinghal@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: [PAF] Ancestral File Update
I haven't heard anything official from any of my usual sources, but a
patron came in Thursday and asked if we had the new version. He was a
little upset that we didn't, but couldn't/wouldn't get specific about
what made him think there *was* a new version. For all I could get out
of him, his rationale may have been that "it's been X years, I'll go look
at the new version."
I'd be MORE than pleased to find out there is one in the pipeline!
Cheryl
visit: http://www.giammo.com/FHC
On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Webster, James wrote:
>
> I have to give a presentation on Ancestral File next month, does anyone have
> information on when the Church plans on getting the next release out??
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jim Webster
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:02:32 -0700
From: rhaldy@juno.com (Richard L Halliday)
Subject: Re: [PAF] Ancestral File Update
On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:13:06 -0500 "Webster, James"
<James_Webster@afcc.com> writes:
>
>I have to give a presentation on Ancestral File next month, does
>anyone have
>information on when the Church plans on getting the next release out??
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Jim Webster
>
>==================================================================
Preparation of a new release of Ancestral File is in progress. It
should be released any month now.
Richard L. Halliday
rhaldy@juno.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:39:02 -0700
From: rhaldy@juno.com (Richard L Halliday)
Subject: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
Nineteen of you responded to the offer of PAF cartoons. All of the
responses will be in the mail within the hour, except for D.K. He has
not yet sent me his mailing address.
All packets are going directly to the post office including E.R. in
Finland.
If anyone else wants copies of some 8 1/2 x 11 cartoons which
illustrate some aspects of PAF (e.g., GEDCOM, sources, diacritics, long
names, support), just send me your name and mailing address. I will wait
several days before making another batch of them.
Richard L. Halliday rhaldy@juno.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:12:24 -0600
From: Ralph Slutz <ralphs@bouldernews.infi.net>
Subject: Re: [PAF] Ancestral File Update
"Webster, James" wrote:
>
> I have to give a presentation on Ancestral File next month, does anyone have
> information on when the Church plans on getting the next release out??
=========================================================
Jim,
Try phoning 1-800-453-3860 Ext 2584
This is the Salt Lake City number for information about PAF.
or 1-800-537-5950
which is the office that actually takes orders for it.
If they can't (or won't) tell you, they should at least be
able to refer you to some appropriate person.
At least the phone calls are free.
Ralph Slutz
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:23:58 -0600
From: Doug & Audrey Andrus <andrusae@cougar.netutah.net>
Subject: [PAF] FHC Seminar URL
Hello folks,
I am including the url for our FHC website which a very kind presenter put
up for our recent Family History Seminar. I hope there might be something
helpful there for some of you. It has most of the syllabus material from
our seminar. It is fairly basic material.
http://www.shs.nebo.edu/salem/famhistory/index.html
Audrey
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:18:04 -0700
From: Velda <wv001@csufresno.edu>
Subject: Re: [PAF] Ancestral File Update
OH, oh. 1-800-346-6044 is the Family History Support number to be used for
information of this sort. 1-800-453-3860 is the general church number and
not to be given out to patrons of FHC and the general public.
At 06:12 PM 9/25/1998 -0600, you wrote:
>"Webster, James" wrote:
>>
>> I have to give a presentation on Ancestral File next month, does anyone
have
>> information on when the Church plans on getting the next release out??
>=========================================================
>
>Jim,
>
>Try phoning 1-800-453-3860 Ext 2584
>This is the Salt Lake City number for information about PAF.
>
>or 1-800-537-5950
>which is the office that actually takes orders for it.
>
>If they can't (or won't) tell you, they should at least be
>able to refer you to some appropriate person.
>
>At least the phone calls are free.
>
>Ralph Slutz
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:09:19 -0500
From: Dale Kinslow <dkinslow@icon.net>
Subject: Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
Dale Kinslow
107 Meadows Lane
Shawnee Ok 74804-1207
BIG THANK YOU!
At 03:39 PM 9/25/98 -0700, you wrote:
> Nineteen of you responded to the offer of PAF cartoons. All of the
>responses will be in the mail within the hour, except for D.K. He has
>not yet sent me his mailing address.
> All packets are going directly to the post office including E.R. in
>Finland.
> If anyone else wants copies of some 8 1/2 x 11 cartoons which
>illustrate some aspects of PAF (e.g., GEDCOM, sources, diacritics, long
>names, support), just send me your name and mailing address. I will wait
>several days before making another batch of them.
> Richard L. Halliday rhaldy@juno.com
>
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 06:11:49 +0200 (GMT-2:00)
From: pooce93@tycho.helsingborg.se (Kraftworks)
Subject: [PAF] RE: Cable TV...... No Monthly Bills!
This is really cool!
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YOU WILL BE WATCHING all your FAVORITE PAY STATIONS
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Call and ask them BEFORE you order!
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278-212 chasis connectors
RG59 coaxial cable #12 copper wire
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:07:57 +0300
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Subject: [PAF] Test Message - Delete
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 10:47:58 -0700
From: Velda Welton <wv001@csufresno.edu>
Subject: [PAF] Great Page!
You might want to correct the spelling of genealogy on the Volunteer page.
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 14:42:24 -0700
From: rhaldy@juno.com (Richard L Halliday)
Subject: [PAF] Printing from PAF
Susan;
I have a similar problem in that I bought a Windows Only printer. I
could not print from PAF when I ran PAF using DOS 6.0 or when I ran it
from PAF Companion. While we were testing PAF 3.0 I notified them in the
Church Office Building and I suggested a solution. They decided that my
solution would work, but that it was too much work. PAF Companion 2.0
has added a couple of reports to its repertoire, but the one you want is
not there.
I have found two solutions.
First, and the one I like least, change the printer destination to a
disk file instead of your hp DiskJet. When the job is finished, close
PAF and open your word processor. The file will be in ASCII (also called
DOS) format.
Second, the one I like best, but which I cannot guarantee will work
for you run PAF under the Windows DOS instead of under PAF Companion.
From the desktop go to Start and click. Move to Programs and click.
Then move the cursor to MS DOS Prompt and click. Now run PAF. To run
PAF, you may be able to simply type PAF. If this does not work then type
CD PAF3 <Enter>. Finally type PAF <Enter>. Now you may find that the
reports will print. I found it necessary to change my printer driver to
hp Laser II - Limited. Note that it takes a long time to print. By this
I mean that the wait seems like several minutes.
Finally, I suggest that you write, telephone and pray that the PAF
people make ALL of the PAF reports available through PAF Companion.
Richard L. Halliday
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 14:24:38 -0700
From: rhaldy@juno.com (Richard L Halliday)
Subject: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
All;
Today while trying to answer Susan's question about a printer, I
crashed Windows and lost about 12 messages. I had already copied the
addresses of Bob Aaberg and Tom Boelling. Anyone else who requested the
PAF cartoons will have to do it again. I'm sorry, but when I run PAF
through PAF Companion while I have Juno "sleeping", the system crashes.
Richard L. Halliday
rhaldy@juno.com
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:03:03 -0500
From: "w m mahan" <wmmahan@comsys.net>
Subject: Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
Hope you get the computer going. Would like a copy of the Cartoons.
Thanks again. I think I might be one of the ones you lost.
Diana Mahan
440 W. Foster Heights Rd.
Rushville, Indiana 46173-8781
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:22:56 -0500
From: Dale Kinslow <dkinslow@icon.net>
Subject: Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
Dale Kinslow
107 Meadows Lane
Shawnee Ok 74804-1207
THANK YOU!
At 02:24 PM 9/26/98 -0700, you wrote:
>All;
> Today while trying to answer Susan's question about a printer, I
>crashed Windows and lost about 12 messages. I had already copied the
>addresses of Bob Aaberg and Tom Boelling. Anyone else who requested the
>PAF cartoons will have to do it again. I'm sorry, but when I run PAF
>through PAF Companion while I have Juno "sleeping", the system crashes.
> Richard L. Halliday
>rhaldy@juno.com
>
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:47:37 -0700
From: "Mark E. Gower" <famlyman@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
Richard and Everyone:
I have also been having many system failed sessions:
I leave my computer running 24/7 and have noticed the following
problems, lately:
a) I am running Windows 95 w/ Service Pack 1 loaded and several
updates-- OLE, Kernel, etc. then recently I updated my Dial-up
Networking software to version 1.2 and then 1.3.
b) I run Netscape's Communicator Browser and am trying out the Beta of
4.5, both Pre-Release 1 and 2.
c) It seems that I can no longer have my browser running and open up my
PAF database or any other program-- my browser crashes-- rather I can no
longer access any web pages or my E-mail.
d) This is also a problem when I exit the browser and the Dial-up
Networking Connection.
Do these problems sound familiar?? It is very frustrating, as I cannot
shut-down Windows normally but have to resort to turning the power off.
If you are experiencing the same problems or have any solutions-- HELP
!!
It has not done this except in the past 2-3 weeks.
Thanks,
I do a lot of internet surfing and check my several databases often (all
are PAF 3.0M) with mine being almost 100,000 records.
- --
Mark E. Gower,
Professional Family History Research.
M.E. GOWER ENTERPRISES
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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:57:35 -0700
From: Peter Van Schaik <peter.van.schaik@T8000.com>
Subject: [PAF] PAF Companion 2 news release
From the notice to our FHC:
The church is releasing an update to Personal Ancestral File Companion,
designated as version 2.0.
This Windows product is designed for use with Paf 3.0 on home computers and
will help the home user print quality genealogy charts and reports. The new
version is available for $10.00 through local distribution centers ( 1
compact disk - item # 50041)
New features of version 2.0
* Outline Descendant Report: Prints descendants in an indented list by
generation, one line per individual.
* Kinship Report: Prints all the the relatives of an individual, indicating
relationships and common ancestors.
* Ahnentafel Register Report : Prints a register (book) report of an
individual's ancestors, complete with an index.
* Family Ordinance Summary: Summarizes ordinances performed for individuals
up to their great grandparents. This feature allows users to quickly see
what ordinances need to be completed.
* Pedigree chart: Now prints the family group records associated with
pedigree charts. Users can choose between sequential or nonsequential
pedigree numbering.
* Family Group Record: Now prints multiple family group records for a
selecred number of ancestral generations.
* History List: Saves a list of the last 40 individuals viewed for each
data file.
At 07:19 PM 9/26/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Can someone tell me what changes were made and what new
>features are provided in PAF Companion? Been looking for a
>review of subject software but haven't found it yet. Jon
>
>
Groetjes from...............Peter!!!!!!
Genealogy............Hobby or Addiction......
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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:54:38 +0300
From: Ed Rogers <zulander@netsonic.fi>
Subject: [PAF] [Fwd: Warning Screens]
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Is it possible to disable those warning screens that come up every time
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I am sending this email to people who have sites pertaining to Hungary.
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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:41:05 -0400
From: "Allan W. Johnson" <alljohn@northnet.org>
Subject: Re: [PAF] PAF Cartoons
Just making sure you didn't lose mine
Allan W. Johnson
21267 Baldwin Rd.
Dexter, NY 13634
Richard L Halliday wrote:
> All;
> Today while trying to answer Susan's question about a printer, I
> crashed Windows and lost about 12 messages. I had already copied the
> addresses of Bob Aaberg and Tom Boelling. Anyone else who requested the
> PAF cartoons will have to do it again. I'm sorry, but when I run PAF
> through PAF Companion while I have Juno "sleeping", the system crashes.
> Richard L. Halliday
> rhaldy@juno.com
>
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